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The brains behind Big Picture Trading, Patrick brings a unique view of the market earned through decades of option trading.  Trading both for himself (and teaching others) how to position a portfolio to maximize reward while minimizing risk.  Patrick is also the co-host of MacroVoices where he has the privilege of working with some of the best thinkers in the Macro universe.

Patrick Ceresna

The brains behind Big Picture Trading, Patrick brings a unique view of the market earned through decades of option trading.  Trading both for himself (and teaching others) how to position a portfolio to maximize reward while minimizing risk.  Patrick is also the co-host of MacroVoices where he has the privilege of working with some of the best thinkers in the Macro universe.
The author of the MacroTourist newsletter, Kevin is a former institutional equity derivative trader for a big bank who decided that bank-life wasn't for him, so proceeded to trade for his own account for a couple of decades before joining his current firm, East West Investment Management where he is the Market Strategist.

Kevin Muir

The author of the MacroTourist newsletter, Kevin is a former institutional equity derivative trader for a big bank who decided that bank-life wasn’t for him, so proceeded to trade for his own account for a couple of decades before joining his current firm, East West Investment Management where he is the Market Strategist.

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Episodes

Episode 46 – Convenience Store for Convexity

0:02:50 Talking Markets with Raoul Pal
0:38:44 Talking Markets with Nancy Davis
0:57:24 This Week in Trading History
1:17:47 Top 5 Things to Watch Next Week
1:34:44 Aftershow with Raoul Pal

Episode 45 – Expert at Making Things Disappear

0:05:36 Talking Markets with Scott Murray
0:23:46 Navigator Launch with Tony Greer
0:46:47 This Week in Trading History
1:06:21 Top 5 Things to Watch Next Week
1:35:18 Aftershow with Scott Murray

Episode 44 – Bonds in a Whimper, Currencies with a Roar

0:04:39 Talking Markets with Daniel Want
0:24:14 What’s Going On in the Markets?
0:59:00 WTF Clip of the Week
1:08:59 Top 5 Things to Watch Next Week
1:22:57 Aftershow with Daniel Want

Episode 43 – Special Summer Episode : Going Long with David Bezic

In episode #43, Patrick and Kevin take a summer week off regular Market Huddle programming. Instead we are proud to present Kevin’s interview with macro strategist David Bezic.

Episode 42 – Kuppy’s Corner

0:02:59 Talking Markets – Update from Kuppy
0:22:40 Explaining Charlie’s Gamma Charts (Ep.28)
0:58:13 This Week in Trading History – Dutch East India Company (Ep. 20)
1:06:35 WTF Clip of the Week – Kramer vs. Kramer (Ep. 18)
1:14:06 Aftershow with Chase Taylor (Ep.23)

Episode 41 – Harry McLovin

0:04:10 Talking Markets with Charles Hugh Smith
0:21:51 GE Fraud
0:57:20 WTF Clip of the Week
1:08:33
Top 5 Things to Watch Next Week
1:32:26 Aftershow with Charles Hugh Smith

Episode 40 – Better Late Than Early

0:03:31 Talking Markets with Tony Zhang
0:37:38 Talking Markets with Barton
1:18:17 WTF Clip of the Week
1:32:01
Top 5 Things to Watch Next Week
1:52:26 Aftershow with Tony Zhang

Episode 39 – You Shot My Prairie Dog

0:02:57 Talking Markets with Jared Dillian
0:27:49 Talking Markets with Chase Taylor
0:59:12 WTF Clip of the Week
1:08:06
Top 5 Things to Watch Next Week
1:30:50 Aftershow with Jared Dillian

Episode 38 – It’s Not Fixed-Income, It’s Fixed-Expense

0:05:07 Talking Markets with Zach Abraham
0:41:55 This Week in Trading History
0:52:28 WTF Clip of the Week
1:13:12
Top 5 Things to Watch Next Week
1:33:29 Aftershow with Zach Abraham

Episode 37 – My Squiggles are Better Than Your Squiggles

0:07:26 Talking Markets with Rob Koyfman
0:47:10 This Week in Trading History
1:08:09 WTF Clip of the Week
1:21:32
Top 5 Things to Watch Next Week
1:48:58 Aftershow with Rob Koyfman

Episode 36 – Bananas and 4-inch Platform Shoes

0:05:17 Talking Markets with Alex Manzara
0:39:15 This Week in Trading History
0:44:22 WTF Clip of the Week
0:55:53
Top 5 Things to Watch Next Week
01:11:09 Aftershow with Alex Manzara

Episode 35 – Take off like a BOB

0:05:31 Talking Markets with Callum Thomas
0:27:39 Kevin’s Worry
0:54:44 WTF Clip of the Week
1:08:37
Top 5 Things to Watch Next Week
01:29:49 Aftershow with Callum Thomas

Episode 34 – Man Buns and Cowboy Hats

0:05:18 Talking Markets with Alex Barrow
0:40:28 Insurance Rate Cut?
1:04:53 WTF Clip of the Week
1:09:29
Top 5 Things to Watch Next Week
01:42:21 Aftershow with Alex Barrow

Episode 33 – Macro Trade of the Century

0:03:40 Talking Markets with Otavio(Tavi) Costa
0:27:56 Talking Markets with Tony Greer
0:47:43 This Week in Trading History
0:57:56
Top 5 Things to Watch Next Week
01:23:34 Aftershow with Tavi Costa

Episode 32 – The Skill of Making Money

0:04:03 Talking Markets with John Netto
0:45:12 This Week in Trading History
0:51:00 WTF Clip of the Week
01:01:59
Top 5 Things to Watch Next Week
01:47:14 Aftershow with John Netto

Episode 31 – The Answer is Gold

0:03:09 Talking Markets with Stephen Aniston
0:27:34 Understanding the Steepener
01:01:46 This Week in Trading History
01:21:28
Top 5 Things to Watch Next Week
02:04:23 Aftershow with Stephen Aniston

Episode 30 – Polyester Suits

0:03:48 Talking Markets with David Collum
0:23:47 Talking Greek with Kuppy
0:46:25 This Week in Trading History
01:19:50
Top 5 Things to Watch Next Week
01:46:28 After Hours with David Collum

Episode 29 – Seduction by Complexity

0:04:18 Talking Markets with Adam Collins
0:35:58 Kevin gets some help with the Dark Arts
0:49:47 Tales from the Trading Desk – Occupy a Job on Wall street
01:16:42
WTF Clip of the Week
01:29:18 Top 5 Things to Watch Next Week

Episode 28 – P-Dogging it

0:06:41 Most Important Event of the Week
0:20:16 Charlie McElligott’s gamma graphs explained
0:43:21 Tales from the Trading Desk – Mrs.MacroTourist
0:49:16
This Week in Trading History
01:34:24 Top 5 Things to Watch Next Week

Episode 27 – Bump and Run

0:04:35 Interview with Alastair Williamson
0:38:06 Tales from the Trading Desk
0:43:40 This Week in Trading History
0:58:08
WTF Clip of the Week
01:14:15 Top 5 Things to Watch Next Week

Episode 26 – The Huddle Puddle

0:04:20 Interview with Aidan Garrib
0:38:08 Neil Hunt talking Eurodollar
01:01:27 This Week in Trading History
01:09:41
WTF Clip of the Week
01:13:41 Top 5 Things to Watch from Last Week

Episode 25 – Breaking out the Brown Sauce (guest Seth Levine)

0:05:49 Seth Levine talking Macro
0:24:40 Tales from the Trading Desk
0:28:58 Smart money versus Retail debate
0:47:25
This week in trading history – the CBOE launches
0:55:19 WTF Clip of the Week – McAffee NFSW

Episode 24 – When Turkeys Fly (guest Samantha LaDuc)

0:04:29 Samantha LaDuc talks markets
0:33:42 Tales from the Trading Desk
0:37:41 This Week in Trading History
0:44:10
WTF – Draghi is Masters of his own Domain
0:59:34 Top 5 things to watch next week

Episode 23 – Waiting like a Jack Pine  (special guest Chase Taylor)

0:04:51 Chase talks inflation
0:29:31 Tales from the Trading Desk
0:35:00 Bonds or Stocks – who’s right?
0:46:28 This Week in Trading History 
0:51:33 WTF – How I Met Steve’s Mother

Episode 22 – It went to money heaven  (special guest Harris Kupperman)

0:04:21 Harris Kupperman on shipping
0:30:00 Tales from the Trading Desk
0:34:34 Talking options
0:47:53 This Week in Trading History 
0:55:35 WTF – Idiocracy strikes CNBC

Episode 21 – You need a pin to pop a bubble  (special guest Kieran O’Dea)

0:04:30 Kieran on geo-politics
0:23:30 Tales from the Trading Desk
0:31:05 Ari Pine on spoofing
0:52:53 This Week in Trading History – It’s contained…
1:07:50 Review of last week’s Top 5

Episode 20 – Never say Never  (special guest Angie Setzer @GoddessofGrain)

0:04:00 What’s going on in the Grain Markets
0:29:25 Tales from the Trading Desk
0:35:02 FOMC – Bull vs Bear
1:00:25 This Week in Trading History – the Dutch West Indies Company
1:14:08 Review of last week’s Top 5

Episode 19 – Confessions of a MMT Enthusiast

0:03:20 Confessions of a MMT Enthusiast
0:37:05 Tales from the Trading Desk
0:45:58 This Week in Trading History – The first insider trading case
0:50:22 WTF Clip of the Week – Pardon me, do you have any Grey Poupon?
0:55:55 Review of last week’s Top 5

Episode 18 – No Smell, No Tell (special guest: Mark Spiegel)

0:03:15 The Tesla Short
0:28:22 Tales from the Trading Desk
0:38:12 This Week in Trading History – 2009 Market Bottom
0:45:03 WTF Clip of the Week – Both Cramers are drinking
0:52:00 Review of last week’s Top 5

Episode 17 – Calling in Fat (special guest: Steve Sosnick)

0:02:47 What is on Steve’s mind this week?
0:38:05 Tales from the Trading Desk
0:49:18 Are the markets in NA heading into recession?
1:10:14 This Week in Trading History – Glass Steagall
1:14:53 WTF Clip of the Week – What does Powell think of Trump?

Episode 15 – Edge of a Precipice (special guest: @Barton_options)

0:04:00 What’s on Patrick’s radar this week
0:10:00 Deep Dive into impact of QT/QE with Barton
0:41:34 Tales from the Trading Desk – Barton talks UVXY
0:48:25 This Week in Trading History – Japan cuts rates to zero for the first time 20 years ago
0:55:22 WTF Clip of the Week – Bill Gross channels his inner Austin Power as he reflects on his retirement.

Episode 14 – Master move in the order of the Lufthansa heist

0:04:41 Tony talks weed
0:25:12 Social media stocks rolling over
0:46:00 Tales from the Trading Desk – Tony’s tale
0:52:12 This Week in Trading History – XIV blows up!
1:04:07 WTF Clip of the Week – Powell and Trump’s dinner Game of Thrones style

Episode 13 – Trump needs more Cowbell (with special guest Erik Townsend)

0:04:22 Erik Townsend talks Gold/Dollar pairs trade
0:35:00 Tales from the Trading Desk – Erik recalls crude trade
0:46:00 The epic flip-flop by Jay Powell
0:55:52 This Week in Trading History – The first TIPS auction
1:08:35 WTF Clip of the Week – Trump needs more cowbell!!!

Episode 12 – The Cracks are Showing (with special guest Tony Greer)

0:03:50 Tony Greer talks gold
0:23:20 End of QT?
0:43:00 Tales from the Trading Desk – Tony talks COMEX floor
0:56:35 This Week in Trading History – Gold Rush 1848
0:58:55 WTF Clip of the Week – Davos Frat Party.

Episode 11 –  The Trading Couch

0:03:08 A whale of an SPX trading
0:24:50 This Week in Trading History –  The Gulf War
0:32:12 WTF Clip – Tribute to William Wallace
0:57:49 Top 5 Things to watch next week

Episode 10 –  Goodfellas… Chinese Edition

0:02:39 Can you trust Chinese data
0:29:57 This Week in Trading History –  The first money mkt fund
0:35:09 WTF Clip – Ross Gerber, no Steven Birch from Billions
0:57:13 Top 5 Things to watch next week

Episode 9 – Fool’s Gold (with special guest Brent Johnson from Santiago Capital)

0:02:39 Silver and Gold Ratio with Brent
0:21:03 Tales from the Trading Desk –  Fool’s Gold
0:35:32 This Week in Trading History – Apple Computer 
0:45:55 WTF Clip of the Week – Cramer!

Episode 7 – The twelve pubs of Christmas

0:03:30 Reactions to FOMC
0:35:40 This Week in Market History –  Boesky and Mulheren
0:41:09 WTF Clip of the Week – Greenspan
0:44:31 Tales from the Trading Desk – Option spreads

Episode 6 – Don’t forget your sample

0:02:40 Gold – fake out or break out?
0:21:00 This Week in Market History –  Madoff
0:29:38 WTF Clip of the Week – The world’s biggest bear
0:33:52 Tales from the Trading Desk – Don’t forget your sample

Episode 5 – Never go full Krugman

0:02:25 Yield curve inversion
0:34:37 This Week in Market History –  A look back at the S&L crisis
0:41:42 WTF Clip of the Week – Krugman, Trump & Powell
0:48:24 Tales from the Trading Desk – Greatest Risk Arb of all time

Episode 4 – The Prairie Dog Formation

0:02:10 Powell Blinks
0:27:50 This Week in Market History – Enron
0:45:48 WTF Clip of the Week – Larry Kudlow’s Press Conference
1:04:46 Tales from the Trading Desk – blast from the past

How not to tell your clients they have been zeroed

Episode 3 – How not to tell your clients they have been zeroed

0:03:20 Did the Federal Reserve finally go too far and engineer a global economic slowdown (recession)?
0:42:50 This Week in Market History – JFK assassination causes a 2.9% dip in the market, but the Dow Jones finishes the year at the highs.
0:45:48 WTF Clip of the Week – Axe reacts to OptionSellers.Com’s announcement
1:04:46 Tales from the Trading Desk – reliving the bad blood between Icahn and Ackman via the Herbalife saga

Energy goes Beserk!

Episode 2 – Energy markets go beserk

0:01:50 Oil / nat gas go in opposite directions.  Is someone big in trouble?
0:15:50 Is this the top in interest rates?
0:42:00 This Week in Market History – Dow Jones finally crosses 1,000 but how long before that level is taken again?
0:47:00 WTF Clip of the Week – Tom Lee’s bitcoin call gets laughter from Seth and Snoop
0:56:30 Tales from the Trading Desk – remembering the natural gas hedge fund trader who lost more than a billion dollars

Energy goes Beserck!

Episode 2 Most important thing this week: Nat gas to the moon while oil craters and we talk bond yield curves.

Episode 1 – Will Trump break the mid-term Presidential Election Cycle?

0:01:40 Reactions on the midterms with a surprising stat.
0:36:32 This Week in Market History – 1907 crash
0:49:25 WTF Clip of the week – talking about percentage change on interest rates
0:54:19 Tales from the Trading Desk – GE after hours 37 million share block.